Wackadoo of the week! Jason Sands, Alien Assassin!

Wednesday, August 6, 2025

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Wackadoo of the week! Jason Sands, Alien Assassin!

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Open your eyes. Greetings and salutations, friends. It is time for the Wackado of the week. And I'm even wearing my blue Chicken, blue rooster Chicken shirt because I believe that Jason sand stole parts of his stories from Corey Good, which is ridiculous because we know Corey Good just made up his stories and for those unfamiliar with this week's WHA I could do of the week, it follows the typical UFO disease pattern.

And what do I mean? Well, when Jason Sands first came around, Well, first of all, he was hiding in the UFO community bo Go, participating in things like panel shows on UFO shows under a different name, and never mentioned that he assassinated an alien in a cave, or that he met a blue alien at Area fifty one, or any of his fantastical claims he would make later just as a bystander. So I believe he was hanging around the UFO land for a while soaking up the lore and then would claim to be a whistleblower himself. And it's important that we recognize that he, like many of these characters, are so called whistleblowers.

His story started at a very believable level, which is that he worked. You know, he had a top secret clearance and he worked at secret bases where his responsibilities had something to do with communications. So his first and initial story was that while working in that capacity, he heard people at the base talking about aliens and crash retrievals and things like this. Well, that's kind of a grounded, believable story, I suppose.

But then, like many of the people in UFO land, he needed news stories to entertain morons. So then he starts saying that he met an alien at Area fifty one, and then later his stories got even more fantastical where he claims that some top secret government group sent him into a cave to assassinate an alien. That's right, these alien assassin So interestingly, he would go into spaces, and he did one space that he really shouldn't have done because it's a more skeptical sort of group in that space is run by UFO Shane. So we're going to play that tonight because people just rip into him because literally all that he has is a story.

All that he has is a story. That's it. He has no proof of anything, even claiming, you know, his story is very debunkable because he claims when he met the alien at Area fifty one, he was with other people. Great, produce the other people and let's see if they back up your bullshit story or not.

He never has and he never will. It's also important to note that shortly after declaring himself a UFO whistleblower, he starts running gofundmes and wants everybody to pay his bills for him, as if somehow it's our fault that he went on the internet and told crazy stories and now he can't find a fucking job. Right. It's absolutely ridiculous what some of these people do, and also ridiculous, why should the UFO community pay your bills you have provided exactly nothing.

He has no evidence of any of his claims. Okay, great, like many of these fake whistleblowers. Great, he was in the military. We can verify that maybe he had clearances to work on you know, sensitive things.

Okay, but that doesn't prove that any of the stories are real or true or factual. And his stories have gotten more and more ridiculous as time goes on, and I believe they will continue to get more ridiculous. We're going to start hearing about a secret space adventures. He also claims he did a twenty and back like Corey Good And by the way, that's a term largely made up by a scam artist grifter.

It doesn't exist. But this is where we're at, and of course this is where we find ourselves. I want to take a moment to thank some kind and generous benefactors who over the weekend I was at the cabin with my family, people were still throwing money at me, which I appreciate immensely, partly for the replays and partly just because sometimes people on Kick are watching replays or whatever and they'll throw a couple bucks in our hat. So I want to thank blood Wolf two eight two, a Kick viewer who kindly became a subscriber.

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This is an incredible This is an incredible spaces where people like really go after this guy for being a bullshenter. I love to see it. Broken hip is sending moral support. Well, that's very kind of you, but I can't buy groceries with moral support, so just keep that in buying.

Yeah, and I apologize for the lack of shows. Last week. It was hella hot in here. It's still hell hot in here, but it's kind of bearable today.

I think I got two three more weeks of this sweltering heat and then I will be good and back to my office, hopefully in the next five or six weeks. For those that are where, I have an office in an attic and it's so unbearably hot in there. You cannot stream in there without an air conditioner, and people complain about the noise of the air conditioner. Double Tap Arranger Outdoors is here with one for the goals seven dollars.

Canadian ah sands many backpedaling after having him on their show Talk to Crazies, Get the Crazies. Yes, I truly believe that, truly, and I see UFO Shane is here. He's taking a break from his pay my rent grift. He's another one when function we pay your rent.

Shane, get a fucking job, bro. Shane's like, no, man, I'm just gonna do UFO spaces and bag like dark Side Phil right, fuck fuck shame. Don't give him your money. Give it to me.

I have children to feed. He's got a dog to feed. Fuck that dog. Right, all right, we're gonna get into it, so I'm gonna put my fair use banner up.

Even though I mean, Shane's here, he knows I'm doing this. I think I have his permission. It's his spaces. I think you own that, right, Chane, or I don't know, somebody else posted it.

I think UFO Intros posted it on YouTube and that's where I got it from. But this is fair use. This is a transformative work. We're educating the public about fake UFO whistleblowers, and somewhere sometime recently, former military people figured out that they could cash in their military credentials and just go into the UFO space and make, you know, make up ridiculous stories and make good money.

I don't think this. Jason Sands guy's had a job since he entered the UFO community somewhat what was it like two years ago. He hasn't had a job. He's just running go fund meets and PayPal me and shit, right, we're all supposed to pay his bills so that he could tell us stories about, you know, meeting blue aliens with no ears in the desert or some you know whatever shit.

I don't know, so let's get into it. The action begins right away, right in the beginning. I believe somebody starts going like, all you have is a story, bro, you're bullshitter, you know, And then there's some crystal hippie bitches at the end. I might have to skip around because this is two and a half hours long.

I'm not sure how much we'll get through it. It depends on the support for this. I'm gonna be pulling a dark side pill. And if there's not much support for this felting Jason Sands, then I'm gonna wage quit, okay, because it's too hot and you know whatever.

So this is UFO Shane versus Jason Sands. And I don't know why, but this Jason Sands thought would be a good idea to go into UFO Shane's space and he just gets murdered in there. But I give him points because he didn't drop the call or whatever, like, he just kept hanging in there. So I mean his credibility is gone now, So he's been caught in the line.

Arthur, what was What was that happened with Vet? Yeah? So Vet had put out a podcast episode I'm pretty sure it's probably still up if you go and check, saying that Jason Sands killed an alien And this was within twenty four hours of the first space And he received that information from Nicole Sakich, who you know as part of the kind of an inner circle kind of person who a lot of people knew about Jason Stanton's story for months and months and months before he went. Public, So that was relayed to him.

Uh, and he put out that information and uh after that aired, Uh, you know, he was forced to retract and apologize and Sands said that he was a liar, so obviously he wasn't lying. He did tell people. Sans response in the nests along with minds above it. If you would like to go see it, you can see it there.

Once again, guys, we're standing together to get this goddamn nonsense out of here. And in fact, it's showing you all the people that actually just allow this thing to happen time and time again. They let people in this community, David and Derek, Cory Good, you know, Charles Hall, all these people that just make this worse. I mean, I feel like he's spitting in my face as an actual experience here.

I'm gonna be honest with you. But I'm known for Shakespeare and I just think this is a joke. I think this is a disgusting joke. I don't understand.

I don't understand how people can be can literally someone can be like, yeah, man, I kill the aliens for the government. You're like wow, because if someone who told you that at the gas station, you'd run and you get your car and laugh at them, or just run because. They probably haven't absolutely you would never ever tolerate this. Show me some proof, show me some proof.

Otherwise you're just making wild, baseless claims. And that's all the ufology has become is wild, basicly bullshit claims. This warning to believe in God then nonsense. Wow, baseless bullshit claims.

I agree with Shane for once. I don't agree with Shane's paying my rental griff though, just putting it out there. And as far as Vettic goes Vetted directly copied third phase of Moon. He does the whole song and dance that they did, Like, whoa, We're just putting information out there.

We're putting it out first, so we don't have time to vet anything. Your show's called vettit, you asshole, Like what are you doing? Like, your show's called vetted? And you keep he keeps hosting hoaxers and get it, and they people prove right after he airs something that it's a hoax.

He's a piece of garbage. And as Shane is mending here, there's a problem with bullshitters in this thing. Like imagine if we could just get rid of all the really fantastical wackad dos and do serious research into the topic, people would take it a lot more seriously. But nobody could take a topic seriously when you've got former military assholes like just Jason Sandsko and the government sent me into a cave to murder an alien, Sure they did.

That makes you feel good about what happened to you. You need to figure out what actually happened to you. Not listen to people lie to you because it makes you feel good, and and and and just keeps you even further away from the truth. This is just getting absolutely ridiculous.

I'm putting my foot down hard on this. I think everyone else up here on the panel and hopefully you guys listening down below, all it's kind of stuff we talking about people. We don't need these job and we don't need. We don't need, we don't need any of these people because they're not going to give you disclosure.

They're going to give you a story about a dude who fucking stabbed aliens to death for the government. You know what I mean. A tip wasn't real. You know, a tip wasn't real.

Elizon was never director of a UFO project, and it's all been built on a lie. And these people are holding all youthology hostage. They think that they're so powerful that we have to buy every bullshit they send us, because if if we don't buy it and we start pushing them out, they're not going to go away soviolently they're going to try to burn this whole fucking thing down. There's so much money to be made, you'll never push them all out, never given credence.

So like him being a government asset or agent, because I don't even know that he's even that connected. But like he's not even good enough to be an asset. With it, like people looking for an answer. Yes, I think that the Langley was part of their plan.

Uh oh, now we're getting into the CIA conspiracies. Double tap Ranger Outdoors with another kind of general seven dollars says the vetic guy has hosted a ton of proven liars one hundred percent. Yeah he does, he just doesn't care. Vetted is wavering.

Also Vett it comes the undeniable proof that Abby load proof comment thirty one at liss is an alien probe. Yeah, uh, just one problem with that. Every other signiist other than Avi Lobe says it's a natural thing. It's a comic or a rock you know, like, it's not an alien spaceship.

And by the way, Avi Lobe has run the that interstower object is an alien spaceship scam already. Now he's trying to run it again, right, it's ridiculous, It's absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, what's does I thought he was there from the beginning. He pops in soon, right, So.

Dron thing was part of their plan. The movie was part of the plan. That the hearing was part of the plan, and what else was part of the book was part of the plan. Alzano's book, I don't know who did the great It was all coordinated.

Behind the scenes. It's called the Invisible College, and you can try to figure out what the old members are that it is. A wack of do I want to make this too. Guys, you're going to be seeing me and other people standing up for you athology.

We're going to be getting attacked in other spaces by these people. Who know their money maker for lob yep. And when you're in there and you see that happening, you open your microphone and you go up there and you tell them that they are wrong, they're reckon, they are the problem. Put your foot down be nice, to be respectful.

I'm doing my best to learn to do that more and more, because you really don't get anywhere to screaming at each other. But this is literally, absolutely ridiculous. And except for Grider, it's like it's kind of like a disclaimer. It's kind of like a disclaimer man, because I can't have like, you know, if someone does something.

Back for men, he could say, you do you, but my advice to you would. Be as respectful as possible. But you don't have to. Oh, we got Jason Sands coming up there.

We go, come on, I don't think there's a government not but a lot of these people are working for Peter Thield and it's and it's obvious. We have to be nice. Shame they have. Jason Sands up here, all right, Jason Sands is up here to people about killing aliens for the federal government.

What are you doing now? I'm not lying about it. It's just you guys are conflating what it actually is. The program itself is in a business of pretty nefarious things, both human and otherwise.

To think otherwise is kind of not the case. That's not reality. The military is the organization that takes out threats that they have contact with NHI, and there are there are threats in the NHI as well. Unfortunately, they knew that they didn't want me in the program anymore, and I got stuck thinking that they were going to kill me or my family, and they forced me to do this kind of nasty stuff.

This is not. I don't know how how much else like we could do that. Yeah, go ahead, because I fucking need to call this out right now. This is the kind of manipulation that you're using right now.

You just tied your story to your family being threatened and you being forced to do these kinds of things for their safety. Yeah. And by the way, so many of these UFO grifters use that my life is in danger, but none of them ever get murdered. You notice that in the history of these fake UFO whistleblowers, they're all saying that government's trying to kill them.

Bob Lazar, uh Louel Azondo, Stephen Greer, this guy Jason said, Oh, the government's trying to kill me, because I'm telling you the truth about those aliens. None of them ever get murdered. And I'm here to tell you, like, if the government wants you dead for real, You're dead. There's no you know what I mean, Like if they want you did obviously, if they could get to a president, they could get to a regular citizen.

It's just so stupid. It so he's he's using that my life is in danger, my family's life was threatened. It's a talking point. It's a it's like a point in the story.

It's a prover maneuver. See, my information is real, so real that the government's trying to kill me. The silence, shut up, you lying scumbag grifter. And what that does is it forces people like us to feel like, what are the bad guys for calling you out or doubting your story?

Because you're you're tying that emotionally. Resonates wed such that it makes anyone doubting your story look like the bad guy. This is emotional manipulation one on want and it's. Not going to grow.

Don't even fucking try what this is absolute horseshit. And the fact that you would even think that a story like this you could just show through the world without a shred of evidence, you expect people to actually just believe it because you're such a nice guy. What if I had experienced this, I wouldn't share it with anyone because I know the rules of evidence, and I know that I would never demand or expect anyone to believe it without having something to give them. That's a fair point, Like why even tell a story if you can't prove it?

Could it be because that story will be profitable with or without any proof? Yeah? How on earth do you sleep at night knowing that you're peddling this kind of bullshit on a daily basis, knowing how gullible this community? Because I know that I don't know they're gullible.

I know that you know that the. Critical thinking faculties to call you out on this bullshit. You know how easy it is to fabricate ship and at least half of euthology will believe you. I don't understand what how little conscious you must have left.

And you can tell us many people you're taking for a right whatever reason, from money, fairy barial, for attention. But you surely know that this is boy, Otherwise you would actually yeah, I'm sure you have. So many Stop please stop, all right, Look that weren't there, You never served with me, You weren't in a program, you didn't experience what I had to. I started off as a skeptic, just like you.

This is the stuff that that happens to people in that program because they are touching base with any NHI. Sorry, Jason, I was trying to bring up a speaker, dude, and I hit the fucking you button because I got Arthur brought them up. Keep going Okay, well, anyways, but they have people that they are dealing with that are nefarious. They've obviously made some very poor decisions in the program, and they have harmed Americans and other people that I am living proof that they do take retrocution out of Why would they do that because they did something that they should not have.

Okay, So if that's not proof, then there's no way I'm walking out. There's no way David Grush. Is walking. Was going to walk out with a damn UFO on their back just to show everybody.

We want the document, obviously we want to do those are classific. Well they's that's not going to be your decision to make, Jason. So okay, look, the decision is with the president. You're right, You're right, it is with the president.

Thank you for clarifying that. So, Jason, were those memories that you recovered from your abduction experiences. Were those hypnotic regressions or those organic memories? Thank you, those are organic memories.

I was told, literally when I gave in my badge over at Indian Springs that day, that they were going to either kill me or I was going to do this program one way or the other. I was not going to see my wife and family if I didn't do what they said. That was the only way to kill alien. We'll kill your bitch wife and your kids.

Motherfucker, you kill them. No, I'm talking about Indian Springs where I went out to New Mexico to White Sands and we were doing a mission there. All I wanted to do was bring my kids on the weekend to a zoo so I wasn't bored half to death, and they flipped a dizzy and it ended up being blown out of proportion. My life was in danger, and I have Did you document this at the time?

Do you have records of that, or did you document it later in life? No, this was just something that came out when people were asking me questions about well, did you do this? Did you do that? Yeah?

He didn't document threats to his with you if you ask me a question. I'm a father of two children and a husband. If somebody threatened my family, I would document it. Any reasonable person, if your family is threatened by somebody, you would document.

It to you. I mean, I've already suffered in my career. I've lost my clearance, all this other bullshit, and you guys still sit there and try to hamm it. You lost your clearance because you're running around telling people the government has aliens.

You asked whole what do you think they're going to do when you basically show everybody that you're a mentally deranged lunatic. Bullshit about what you think you were you were because you have that you don't have clearents. You you think that the fact that you don't have a appearance is all the proof that we need to know that you're telling the truth, and it just doesn't work that way. What do you want more than a story?

More than a god damn story? If you want, go convince the Adam minimum. Okay, if someone else watching for you, literally you asked me, if you answering as you asked me, what do I want for proof? I can give you a million impossible things that you could provide literally another person who you worked with who is willing to come out, literally anyone else who could watch for what your responsibilities were, a fucking paste of a fucking image of you during the time, like literally a journal of you writing this down timestamp when this was happening.

Not just bullshit stories that get increasingly more fantastical every time you come on UFO Twitter, especially after documents that you might have and even if you don't. Absolutely Okay, when on earth did you ever get in trouble in an altercation at a Walmart and decide, Oh, it's a great time for me to journal this fuck that. Analogy? Okay, let me give my two cents on this real quick.

Jason, you sound like a really sweet man, can't you can't You can't be telling people you killed aliens for the federal government with no proof, man, because it makes you no different than Corey Good or David Wilcocker any of the guys before you. Man. And I feel personally as an experiencer myself, that you're spitting in my face, in the. Faces of the people that have experiences.

And I don't know who's paying you to do this. I don't know if they are. I don't know if you're doing it of your own, but what's going on. But you have to be able to approve of these claims instead of just telling me, oh, my whole family is gonna be murdered or whatever, because you're trying to make me feel bad.

And honestly, dude, I don't know if I can't. I don't believe the word you're saying. So it really is okay, good, So I get your opinion. Honestly.

Yeah, it's a bitter. It's a hard pill to swallow, all right, So I don't. Like talking about even if it's circumstantially. I've said a couple of different times I talk to you guys, he's in space.

To keep bringing it up, you were. Just yeah, I know in a movie, part of your documentary. Okay, he's part of your group. So anyway, the whole if you guys want this to go away and you don't know what these dudes, well, you said it.

The fact is that you said it. Yeah, because you asked an honest question. I gave you my honest what did you do? I can't take it and shut up?

What did you do? You killed the alien? What happens. You were not there.

You were not I know. I'm asking you the question, what did you do with the bodies? Where's the body? Bitch?

Jason got an opinion, You've got an opinion. Let's let's try to do some hands. You guys are going on. You weren't irrational human being.

You have no credibility because all you do is I can make that. What is this high school? This isn't hate, this is take a picture. Everyone has his cell phone.

Yeah, I agree. All right, we're gonna go to hands, as Arthur stated, so if you want to talk, you have about five seconds to raise your hands. You can ask Jason the question. Jason can respond, We're gonna keep it civil.

I don't want to Nobody asked him about man. We're going on a new wave of those shame because he claimed when he met the alien at Area fifty one that he was with two or three other people, like right in a jeep. So name names. Let's go talk to those two or three people and see if they can corroborate your story.

Why won't he release their names? So you know, because the whole. Story is face sometimes But I'm still gonna get my my point opinion across he did the Arthur you can call in the hands. Let's go attim t first, somber Christian he talks to.

I don't think into any of his UFO. So I'm curious she ever heard of the story of Phil Schneider? Yeah, I have. And what do you think about that story?

I don't know honestly. That again, just like me. And when he was asked, you know, he seemed like he was being genuine, but I didn't know what to take home with. Yeah, it turns out Phil Schneider was a mental was a mental case.

He had been in and out of psychiatric institutes. He was never a geologist. His claimed education was fake, his claimed work history was fake. And for those a aware, Phil Schneider claimed that he was a geologist for the government working on secret underground basis.

Yeah, he was an insane guy. Cut off his own fingers, he did. He had a rare psychological condition which caused him to mutilate his own body, so he cuts off some of his fingers. And then his proof of meeting aliens and being in an alien battle at UFO conferences was hold his hand up with missing finger or whatever and say that the alien shot a laser at his hand and melted off his fingers.

That was his proof. But there is documentation that proves that he cut off his own fingers. So the Phil Schneider story is completely and totally fake, and asking one whack could do about another whack of do is a waste of time in my opinion. The same with what I said with about this having to do mercenary work.

It's up for you guys to whether you want to take it on value or not on value. That tells me enough for it there. Yeah, I don't care if you guys agree or not. I'm telling you the truth.

But it's your own it's your own business to go ahead and trust me what you really did? Kill an alien sitting here bad mouthing me for something I obviously feel I have experienced. I don't get it. It's like your opinion doesn't stand.

Yeah, because Arry Joyce is from that my rabbit hole is here. He cut his own fingers and there's documents that he cut his own fingers off. People still argue on fake education, fake Christian theologist. No he wasn't.

He was a whack of doue. He but bugged as a motherfucker. Go ahead. Christ Hey, Jason, not man.

I don't know if you can shoot me a DM man because I'm not an experiencer. But I had my exes and she has some stories that I was very scared. I'm not going to go into it because I don't want to. You know how this is.

I'm sure you can. Pass a polygraph test. I can tell you believe what you say. At least that's what I believe that.

You believe it. But yeah, man, shoot me in DM because you know these topics are sensitive and they're so unbelievable anyway, but I'd like to share with you privately. If that's cool, that's why. Okay, thank you, I'll turn it down.

Okay, you can do that, but yeah, I agree. I've already told several people and taken put the polygraph. I'd walk people into the bases install. I'll give him a polygraph.

If he'll agree to it, I'll give him a polygraph. I'll fly to wherever he is and give him a polygraph. Students and show them where I worked and all the different things. I've even offered to Congress that I know where the documents are that go all the way back to nineteen fifty four.

Double Tap Ranger Outdoors is another one for the goal. Nobody has asked me to go. And he's the sole contributor tonight. Tonight's show is sponsored by Double Tap Ranger Outdoors.

Thank you very much. Double Tap Ranger Outdoor says, losers like this joint join the military to feel tough, then wash out later and make up stories like they were in combat or aliens. Yes, I agree, and God bless the goal and thank you Double Tap Ranger Outdoors. Let me uh maybe maybe some praise the cash bumpers will entice people to be a little more generous, right, uh yeah, I think that's a good idea, So praise.

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Honestly or unrealistic when it comes to demanding evidence. Oh, it's unrealistic. When somebody's talking about they got sent on a secret mission to murder an ali and to ask them for evidence, it's unrealistic. Yes, I agree.

I want to fill the Congress, even the documents and nobody's taken me up on the offer, strangely enough, because. They think you're a mental case lunatic. I wonder why that is, because they think you're a mental case. Thank you show supporting.

Let's go to the next to Somber. I'm just curious. There seems to be a little bit of a career deviation in your history, right, I mean, that's kind of public knowledge if you can touch on and why you got into psyops and cyber more forare and more stuff in your. Part.

Well, by the way, he resumes he ever worked in these areas, what. I was was an electronic system security analyst is what they called it early on. It also converged into another until career field later on, as they're redoing the manpower for the Air Force. But anyway, oh, but yeah, that was fun.

I'm glad that we did that equipment. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I did films on top of wire those guys are I think they're fun. And hooking up computers to computers and monitoring emails became a part of my job as well.

So all of that I trained myself on how to program in SQL and in visual basic. Visual basic what is this nineteen eighty seven. Come on, and everywhere I went ever since, I did that because I did it meanly, because I was the training manager when I was at ORIF Milton Hall, so he was. An electronic security guy.

Okay, that doesn't listen. If you had a murder an alien, like, let's unpack this for a minute. Let's say you are in the government and you know there's some if there's some nefarious evil alien in a cave, and you got to murder that alien for whatever reason, when you send special forces like a sealed team in there to kill the alien. No, let's send this big fat guy that sits at a desk and does computer work for us, Let's send him in to murder the alien for us.

It's just it's ridiculous and childish and stupid. If you really had a murder an alien, you're not sending some desk jockey computer geek in there, right. It just doesn't make any sense. Caleb nineteen sixty four, who has already a praised the cash member has gifted at True Seekers membership.

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We're all caught up, called out all the cash. And my opinion had a program because I wanted a really good training database. So I did that, and ever since then it followed me around, and eventually when I got out of the Air Force, I thought, I kind of really like computers. I'm going to pursue that as a career.

So that's when that's another thing. If you had a murder an alien or send them Come on, let's again, let's unpack this. If you had to assassinate an alien, are you sending a computer geek from the Air Force, some fat guy that sits at a desk to go murder the alien? Or are you sending into Marines or the Green Brays or Seal Team.

It makes no sense. It just defies logic, even that claims. With just simple logic, you could pick them apart as total horseship. Outside the Air Force, I did more with computers and working with an NSA and cyber and teaching them, mentoring them.

That's when I became a cyber guy. And they actually for my first schoolhouse that I was teaching in, they actually made me take certification tests and stuff like that, just like an IT guy would or a cybersecurity guy was. She would not do with me because I would rip it, shred and leave that old bit would survive computer forensics. So that ended up being there.

And the other thing that helped me to get my jobs also in the cyber comm staff. Don't they just send a drug Yeah, also. A planner for a part of my career, which is something I did in Hawaii, and that joint planning experience was what they hired me for. Is because I used a computer virus to kill the memorandums for you know, I don't know visuals, admirals, three start generals, all this kind of stuff, And so that converted well into more than even as yes, and I'm like, well, gee, I've taught that for about ten or fifteen years.

Will you hire me? So we have some drones, but we'll see this fat loser instead and say. All that stuff started rolling out in my somewhat what thirty year contracting careers. So that's how I became a cyber guy.

But it stemmed from my second job in the Air Force. My first job was an airframe mechanic, My second job was an intel guy, so that's when I did the electronic system stuff, and I did that for the programs equipment to monitories stations at all theations that they sent me to and the other three guys too, and that's how we got gathered all the intel and then we would debrief the staff at each of those locations and we would tell them, yeah, this is what we found out about your mission type. Here's what we feel you all right. I'm checking in with the kick chat and it looks like we have a kind of generous benefactor over there.

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The skills that you learned, it was one of the best at its average. Did you apply that when you did? You have to apply that kind of stuff when you came out from some of the harassment you received. No nobody ever questioned my skill set at all.

Nobody questioned his skill set. It's just something that you got to understand. You're talking back in the nineties when there's really old computers compared to what we got today, and yeah, you'll be a more drag. Uh yeah.

The fake website that fans killed the Aliens with his future Yeah. Oh no, I didn't know what existed when they deployed that. You were you were out of your wheelhouse. Still, I'm just trying to put all these things.

No, no, you got in the world. It's like, you're a cyber guy. Well, here you go. I'm a cyber guy.

But you know, I don't know what you're doing in your basement tonight. You could create a website that's my picture that you grabbed off of something else, which is what happened. I didn't even know if the website existed until somebody showed it to me when of my friends said, hey, somebody posted this, and I'm like, ah, yeah, that's a picture I used to use for WhatsApp. And he's like, so you're not a lawyer, And I laughed at her because he knew it wasn't a lawyer.

Somebody put up a fake website claiming to be able. We just laughed about it, and then everybody just was like, Yeah, this this looks like some scammer just trying to. Make stuff up, and he's calling somebody else a scammer. Jason, when you claim that you killed an alien, can you explain what happened?

What did they do with the body afterwards? Where did it go? Yeah, where's the body? But honestly, uh, that was part of their job.

I wasn't tasked to do anything with that. That was it. We just went in to take care of the dirty work. He left.

They took us off with a helicopter and off we went and went back to wherever, and they would make us go unconscious. They'd give us some kind of shot and you'd go unconscious again, and the next thing you know, you'd be back in your bed, bedroom and waking up the next day. Do you see how you had a dream. So you had a dream.

He dreamed that he killed an alien in the tunnel. Yeah, Honestly, for many years I thought that is this just nightmares I'm having. Or very good for the members, very kind of. I had injuries where in my what I thought was my dream that I had injuries in the dream, and I was like, this is just not right.

You know. Do you see how? Do you see how? No?

And thank you for answering real quick. Do you see how from our perspective or people who don't believe your stories perspective? Yeah, it's the same thing that have done. Seem to hold on.

Second, just you seem to be able to answer. You can explain away the lack of evidence at every single level. There's nothing, there's no detail. It's just get I don't even know the locations where.

You know, there was one memory I have of going into a cave. I got no idea exactly where that was. But how did you go from a visual basic programmer to an assassin of aliens? Dude?

Yeah? The nexus? No, No, that I became a programmer after that. Okay, first he killed aliens?

Danny? If you were in our shoes, would you believe your story? I always sit there and have to listen to it and go, gosh, you know I wasn't there, and I'd have to make my own decision, just like you guys have to ask. Oh, come on, I mean you asked me a question.

I'll give you an answer to you whether you want to accept it. Or not. To you, but it's not going to get you in. This is incredible that this is this is how your mind works.

This is the reasoning process. That I cannot. I mean, there's no answer I can give you that's going to satisfy your curiosity because we. Get them.

Guys. Nobody was sitting there with a camera when I was doing all this stuff. So we want some corroborations from your the other people you worked with. We want documentation.

Or if you were sending somebody in on a top secret mission to kill an alien, wouldn't you give him a body cam so you can confirm the kill? So there should be video of this, right. This is where the stories just get ridiculous and they fall apart under the least little bit of critical thinking or scrutiny. Tony huge Cock eight nine, Tony huge Cock.

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Oh, one of those things brated. You don't know about it, but behind the scenes, some people are some people blessed. We're investigated. They found them and they corroborated.

Okay, we're just trusting your word on that. So again that's meaning yes. Honestly, you would have to literally petition, you know, for people corroborated my story, you know, Eric produced and what the ICIG was provided and what Congress was provided, and good luck getting them to come clean on everything because I don't know what they think and would. Be willing to help in out Would you be willing to help drive that after uge.

I already asked for all the records and they still didn't even give it to me. I even called up about my own clearance, did and they refuse to tell me what was going on. Did you file a Foyer request for these? Yes?

I did, I have a copy of that, yet I did not get did you tell Congress about that? Yeah? And had some friends looking into it. They have not responded.

Well, I haven't told me that they have. Again, they would want to confirm the kunt I'm. Sure they didn't drop it. I don't expect that of them.

But sometimes it takes a while to get stuff ferreted out and figure out who has document and who from there, sometimes stuff gets lost amongst all the other legislation. Besides, this is another good point. Thank you for that. If you're if you're running a top secret mission to kill aliens, would you really write it all down and keep documents about it?

It makes no sense. And Troy tro Troll is here, long time show supporter. Did this guy ever say why they wanted the alien? A good question?

And no I don't believe he ever did They just sent him into a cave to murder an alien. Troy Troultroll, trust me, bro Yes, yes, yes, thank you very much, and Echo Archives with another one. Linda Moulton Hall is haunted by bovine ghosts with no buttholes. Yeah, she cut the button.

I think she killed those cows. Linda mount and Haw killed those fucking cows. That is correct, Linda molt Haw killed the cows, kind of like when the Navy seals supposedly killed the Sama bin Laden but kicked him out of the helicopter over the ocean. No.

I think they threw him over the ocean off the aircraft carrier. And there's a specific reason they did that. They didn't want him to have a burial place so that he would become a martyr and people would go worship him for what he did to us, so they just threw him in the ocean. I think that what they should have done is injected him.

They should have drained his blood injecting, injected his entire body full of pig blood, and then throw him over right, because Muslims have a big aversion to pork and uh, I think that would be I think there's something that you know, like if a Muslim is in contact with a pig, they can't get into heaven or something. I don't know. That's a weird rabbit hole tweets. I'm liking this.

I'm getting a lot of information here, and thank you for being honest about it, Jason. I do appreciate that. Blazing him up keeping him on the line a. Logan talking, I'm talking on.

H Yeah, good to see. I I just want to notice that some people were kind of feel like going a little bit hard on you, and uh, maybe it's just because I'm I've been here the whole time, but yeah, I don't understand why you go hard on the guys. You know, he doesn't have any evidence if we know this. Provided that story, logan, are you fucking serious right now?

You know? Damn well? Why get him? Yes?

Because oh my god, this is not just an isolated thing. Eupology has a history as artists and who have absolutely but a story and a trust me bro, and they have deceived. I don't know how big the Upology's many, maybe millions, maybe hundreds of thousands. There's a history in a pattern here that you guys never seem to learn from.

He is just the latest example of that. Either sign who knows or no, let me finish Jason, or he's doing it of his own board. But they absolutely have nothing, and look at what it leads to. This doesn't isn't This isn't just like a funny little story that you could just choose to believe it not, This has real world fucking consequences.

Do you know the number of people that I've worked with a big traumatis because they've been racing cults because they believe people who make claims like these that are evidence free. This is not a almost little exercise. And I am angry. I know you're not a part of the cold.

You would be the cult leader in this situation. Jason, I don't know. I don't think it's fair to call him a cult leader. And uh, I mean we can't tell the experiences that they can't share their experience.

I mean when people choose to deal with informations up to them and I mean, yeah, there's a bad history, but you can't blame like the experiences for sharing the story. You can't blame the experiences for sharing their story. How about you don't share your story if that's all you have is a story. Garagie, who's a long time show supporter, with two dollars and one for the goal, thank you, We are praising it.

Thank you, Garage will continue our journey into what I could do Ville. Yeah, but if you would, I would argue with that though, because you'd be using that same excuse if Corey Good was sitting here right now, and. He wasn't the big shame. He is right, you'd be defending him like I don't.

Like what you're Corey. Well, he's a he's a liar. We know that, man. This is why you a fology, never goes in, never learned any historical over and over again, and you can let's go, We're gonna go back there.

It's okay, it's okay. I don't want to turn on each other. Look, look, any other time I'll be in here fucking going and saying, but Jason, I'll give them props. Okay here, And I always say, I always say, if the guy come and talk, that's that's that's more than anyone else would do.

Well, you want evidence, I was going to offer something to the group. If it matters anything to you, I can get to you know, given the program name and everything else. It's something I gave to some of the investigators, and that is that I have my personnel reports that state for the years that I've always stated that I was in a special access program. Okay, so it's right there in my military records, and I will be willing to produce those and even highlight those bullet statements on my own personnel reports.

Yeah, it's the fact that you were in a uh secret access program is not proof that you murdered aliens. There's thousands of secret acts programs for the military and intelligence complex. That says that that is exactly what I did. Was I thank you in this program?

Uh. The other thing is that it will show the day. Double t Ranger Outdoor says, trust me, bro, Yeah, trust me, and that's all they all have. Trust me stornellas when this occurred, is that partly some of the evidence, other than having to produce a freaking UFO.

Poisonous inducing ideas I want document. We want So that's good, Jason. Would that help though, is what I'm asking the group. Yes, any in all documents, I will Yeah.

I don't see how that. Could hurt Yeah, okay, yeah, special access program could literally mean anything. And man, it could have been a computer security guy you know tomorrow at. White Sands that a special access Well, I don't I don't know if you were mk Ultrid or what's going on.

You just you just well you just said earlier that it felt like a dream that you weren't sure if these are dreams are not? What you just said, well, red hair, so maybe something so learn. But I will say that if what you're saying is true, then I would like to know. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this.

I there's a history, like like Sky was saying in the Athology, of people making these wild claims with no evidence. So if you can provide more than those people ever have and do that in a way that can show anything at all, then I'll I'll you know, I'll accept it. I'll look at it. Right, But you have to understand, Jason, you haven't been a part of this.

Uh. I know you were killing aliens and ship with the government. But I can from a ufologists standpoint of allowing counterintelligence guys in here whenever this would never be allowed in the past. Things like that.

So there's a lot of distrust and and people always tell me, they're like, oh, let people do this and that. Well, like I keep bringing Corey Good up, But when people did that for Corey Good, he destroyed multiple, multiple people's lives, including two women that built the Light Warrior website for him. He then used it against them. So where I'm coming from him, like that's on all the experiences you know, yeah, but it's a history, right, here's due diligence.

Okay, well, I get the idea of evidence and all this other good stuff, and I know I wish I had everything to just provide it to everybody and say look, here you go and open it up. However, would you also fairly say that, you know, from my point of view, you guys also need to produce, you know, some real evidence that maybe you know, yeah, we talked to one of my you guys talked to one of my co workers, and now that that's why you want to bad mouth me and call me on the carpet. But right now I'm not hearing that. I'm just hearing probably are lying, but but we're both.

Let's get to some hands. It doesn't exist, all. Right, go ahead, Terrestrial, Okay, go Aheadress, We're gonna go to bris Jason. What was the method of execution and why was that the chosen method over other methods?

Kill the alien? That? Just like that when I was in the program, the Tall Whites were using the Grays as worker bees and clean up people for their laboratory experiments. Okay, one second, we have to rip it.

Here. He's mentioning the tall whites and for those unaware, the tall whites are a complete and total work of fiction that was put out into the UFO mythos by a man named h Oh what is his name? We busted him something fierce uh, And it turns out that the guy who invented the whole story about the tall whites was a complete and total stolen velor fraud who was never in the military. And his story starts with when I was in the Air Force, I was at secret bases.

Charles Hall is his name, and we busted him. He was never in the Air Force. So should we believe if he was never in the Air Force and his story began with when I was in the Air Force, I met tall white aliens. Jason Stands just co signed a complete and total Hoaxer's claims about tall white aliens.

Tall white aliens are fake, and so was the guy who invented tall white aliens. He was never in the military. So this alone, I wish I was in that space because I would have hit him with that. I would have hit him with Phil Snyder being a complete total fraud as well.

This is what the grifters do. They build on accepted UFO mythology like, oh, I had to go kill this gray because he was working for the Tall Whites. The Tall Whites don't exist. They were made up by a man named Charles Hall who lied about being in the Air Force and working at a secret base where he met these aliens.

His whole story is a fraud. And here Jason Sands is co signing another hoaxer's fake story that was a stolen valor fraud. And you would think since Jason Sands was actually in the Air Force, he wouldn't be repeating lies from a stolen valor fraud in the form of Charles Hall. Aloofness to dirty work in I think their mentality and if they can get they know that the only other options it's kind of alien Well that's a better idea.

Yeah, you use them for that. That's the only supposition I could think of is why they would allow people to be used in that way. But here we are also that you know, if they are abducting people without consent, it seems like they don't really care what you think. Anyway, They're going to do it.

The damn will please to the human race. They have superior I'm saying it was like a long rifle, but it shot kinetics something out of it. I don't even know how. All I know is that I I could use it.

Like a rifle, an hi weaponry or was it human? It looked to me it was just simply there's a trigger on it. Welcome. You just handed it and told to you know, point it down range like you do a rifle.

Did you shout for the correct That's a forty K joke. I heard people from young Haven't you know what I do? I do need to fix something here future down their feature. I guess because your name is an ethnic you got to my screen.

I couldn't see you. I'm so sorry. So I didn't mean to walking with the tall whites. That guy's a total fred.

He was never in the air force. I just have a really quick like bullet round of questions. I don't believe or disbelieve you. I have no emotion mind this.

So you were so threatened that you killed aliens? How are you not threatened today? And you're able to come out with government secrets? And you were so fearful brave enough that you were willing to kill people and now.

You just come out with all the because it was not even like that at all. I mean, I agree with Tony copy. How many times do I have to say huge cock. With terrorists?

That's kind of what it was. It felt like to me, was that it was that kind of word. Yeah, Alien scientists. Very good point.

And by the way, I'm sorry I missed your text about the Ashton thing. I'll get back to you my old forum, Admund David Hilton was the first guy who filed foya's on Charles Hall and exposed the fraud. Yes, and after I saw that he did that, But there was some confusion, Jeremy, because Charles Hall has given three different birth dates. He's got three different birthdays, and I think that was to prevent people from finding his records or lack thereof.

So myself I filed the Foyer request and got the same result that David Hilton did, that he was never in the Air Force. And then. I sent a guy who's an expert in military records to file the same requests with the National Personnel Record Center on all three birth dates that Charles Hall has used, and all three came back never in the Air Force. But thank you Jeremy for pointing that out.

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All right, my friends, let's continue. This is so stupid. So he's co signing a complete and total fraud that was never in the military, and he's weaving his story into a previous hoaxer story. Well, it's kind of like the Special Forces people.

Oh yeah, he's Special Forces. Let's send this big fat guy into a cave murder an alien with a special alien rifle that he knows that he knows nothing about. Come on, they may be some of them might end up getting paranoid by the trauma they've been through. Well yeah, and live their whole life in fear for their life.

But still they retire from the army or wherever, and they go on about their lives. I'm not fearful for my life. I know I had to do some bad stuff. Okay, So he was so fearful for his life that he took a mission to go assassinate an alien or they would hurt his family.

If they would hurt your family. If you won't go kill an alien, won't they hurt your family? For blabbing about it in Twitter spaces and on YouTube and in documentaries and books and shit. I would think, I don't know.

I retired. I tried my best to forget about it, try to live a normal life, and that was it. But now that you know, I feel like I'm on mission now to at least tell people there is a program, there's stuff going on in it. There are some concerns.

Really all I really wanted to talk. To this guy reeks a disinformation agent if he asked me some of the various stuff that I've been like one of those people that are sent out to make the whole subject worthy. Of mockery in But can we talk about what you guys would be able to take action on? You know, here's what it was like.

What so you used to have your kids in life threatened you no longer? Do they stopped? What color do they bleed? Do they bleed?

What does it look like when you kill them? I only remember one particular one where something oozed out. It was kind of like this creature that had. Yeah, why make the big fat idea therapist like a special Forces.

Yeah, big and fat. He can't even run? Why, some kind of yellowish just like the super Soldiers. They were always fat.

Now came out and they have superpowers. Come on. So okay, and how many. People are on there's anywhere between four to six depending.

On Wow, six alien assassins are them or they're just delivered like a deer. It was like they had already located them and we were just put on site, you know, like airlifted in and told take out. The word here to the Yeah, he's this guy is at least partially retired, and maybe he's like a quarter tard or a half. Tired Wilson to finish cleaning up.

Okay, so if your airlifted, is there any record he was really sent to the alien black ops? Yeah, no, I think I think he did. Yeah, yeah, pigsfore, that's maybe that's why you shot them. Okay, went in the cave.

The alien started banging him, and then the gun on him, and then his voice is quivering, bad liar, Yeah, and. Uh yeah, good space couples and points. One thing is that I can't see how anyone can establish that this isn't just dreams, And that's quite charitable interipretation. That isn't kinds of experiences that many experiences report believe that they've gone here, there, and everywhere, and you know, being space ship.

And then you find in many of those cases, if a partner is in the room, they see them present spatient, and we now know that a lot of those cases are not physically objectively real. So that is one charitable explanation. But the things more disappointing is that you know, James Fox has allowed you, Jason to go on there as an insider, not as an experiencer. I think if you said all this is I've had this, I believe I've had these experiences.

I have these memories of things that happened. But the problem is you are being sold to everyone as an insider from a human run project with human technology. Is evidence that could be presented if it being presented that you were experiences and were unsure of what actually the hell went on. I don't think you would have the kind of criticism you're getting.

But you can't really establish to us that these aren't visionary experience honestly. I wish they were bad dreams, honestly, but they are very very real not dreams. I really kill that alien to us anymore than most say they've had name the introductions. The problem is you can't establish that you're not just to say, an experience of some strange memories over the insider in a project.

And the problem is you've been sold and gone along with that narrative and you have no way to statiate it. I think you were unwise to have done that if you had said I had. From now on, I'm just going to avoid the question. I'll just tell them no, I don't want to talk about that because it's just you're right.

I don't think people are ready for it. Yeah, people aren't ready to hear about how murder should come out. Maybe a Jason, you already said it all. It's already out in public.

No I didn't. I think you know, you guys are evident that it's not out that we're not to disclosure. But how it goes you can't say that. I don't.

So we can all do this, and that's the problem. Unless someone comes and says, well, look, i've got this event at the very least you said, go to Congress and everywhere else, those people you should name who it was a Congress you've talked to, who is to investigate your cake to start giving names which should be objectively proven because he probably never spoke to you in government, that would stop. Yeah, I think you shouldt least try to present some of that, because then at least people can say he believes what he's saying. But you can't even well, they are friends of mine, they do have their own lives.

I can ask the committee members if it's okay for me to mention that they were the ones that helped to get me through that day when I went to go testify. I know that I asked them at one point if I could get at least I don't think he showed that I was there. I don't think he ever testified to Congress yet. To get a response from them for that.

So yeah, I could do that. I can. I can actually do that, but I would want their permission first to use their name. He's never done that that, you guys could know, he's never done it.

He's never released the David. Gress talked to. It's the same committee committee. And so yeah, let's go to a little pop tard and then UFO me face.

Yeah, hey, so not much of a question, but I just you know, I want to meet. At first, I was not, you know, I was kind of skeptical, pretty skeptical of you know, of his story, because I hadn't heard you speak about it, Jason. But after hearing you speak about it, you know, and it made me realize to think, which made me tend to believe that you might be telling the truth. And I do somewhat believe what you're saying is true.

Is that we do we do you down even according to doctor Greer, two to three craft per year and one hundred total is what doctor Greer said. Citing doctor Greer as a real information sources kind of ridiculous. Okay, et craft has been shut down. So we know that these black you know, program.

Patients it takes to interview these frauds. I agree. Yeah. This kill team, Yeah he had a big kill team.

Yeah that I don't that's kind of a mystery to me. I know that this just means that PPP could be a Special Forces alien assassin. Yes he could, Jason, so often it happens, would be a guess on my part and what they retrieved will be a guest on my part. And where exactly they went out to go retrieve it, I don't know.

But those were all things that other people had on my teams. Some of them were part of the retrieval team. I was. No echo.

Adams with a kind of generous one for the goal says this banana sandwich needs proof or it didn't happen. I agree, you need proof of that banana sandwiches. They won't member if he went to members of Congress to testify. It's already public records, so Sands doesn't need their permission exactly.

His kill team as a bunch of fat guys. That and oil you can eat buffet. Uh oh wow. He posts veterans, he posts videos in a wow little pop tart is his name.

Yeah, I heard he did that. That's wild. That's pretty crazy, pretty out there answer. But all I know is that the retrieval program is there and it's designed to, you know, get a moment's notice.

Phil Snyder cut his own fingers off, wi Ules. That's not proof craft that they just there's documents proving he cut his own fingers off. They recover these craft. But I think that's more of an acceptable idea for people to understand than you know, having to deal with the mercenary or the threat.

Yeah, they would be afraid of to me, you know, Yeah, it's it's. Harder to talk about. Is one of the village people threats in our own world. There are threats.

Agree that there are other life forms. They the police, they're bad actors, just like we do. And when they're here on Earth. I don't know why, but they do use some humans to do that.

So it's the same thing. It's just, you know, one of those things where if you think your way through it logically, it kind of makes sense, but at the same time the evidence for it, how do you prove this happens? Well, you either take the people that are telling you a word for it and look at their their records, like you've you've done with me. You talk, you talk to me.

You're okay about a lot of other things that I say, But yeah, I agree, this is one of the tough areas that I've ever had to deal with. Yeah, that is a tough area. I'm murdered. Aliens certainly didn't help any PTSD problems that I had from all the other crap I had to deal with in the military.

But yeah, this, this is not an easy thing to swallow, and I agree, and I would even agree with you guys that if asked in another interview about you know, this mercenary crap, I'm just not going to address it. People didn't swallow my alien murder story, so I'm not going to talk about this one no more. Do you know your body count? Jeez, it wasn't very many.

Maybe a handful, Okay, sick? All cool? You kind of killed a multiple aliens. I've got a couple of questions real quick.

First of all, I think it takes a lot of balls coming through the space as an answer. Even more convincing than this. Definitely helped the fire, so it is commendable. The questions of.

Body can did you she meant? How many aliens did he murder? And when was that? Yeah, she's spoken to him a few times.

Yeah, he's got a pretty database, okay, And yeah. He's got a big database of bullshit? And no, who is your liaison? Was more convention?

Yea. The longer he goes on lying, the more obviously. Sorry. Three, you did mention at times that people were trying to control your story.

You did mention Corbell and a bunch of others that were hitting you up when he came into spaces and the frustration you weren't able to go to detail about that. Can you go now go more into detail about it now that the documentary is out and you've come out as we yes. As a computer guy, he had to install McAfee a bunch of times. It was very traumatic for us setting at Adass.

Congressional Committee members. They were the ones who initially interviewed me. I looked up my clearance and all that good stuff. So I actually interviewed them over the phone while I was still still working down in Pensacola teaching cyberspace stuff.

And that's when it all started back in twenty two. So in twenty two then October, I get a call from a committee member asking me if I'll come, and I said, yes, that's what I feel like I have to do. And so he said, okay, we're going to do this pretty quickly here. So within about a month or so, I was flying back to Washington to go give them the testimony.

I don't believe he actually asked any members question again that would be public. It's not it was a girl earlier. People controlling your story, controlling my story? Yeah yeah, and like who was that and what exactly what was the purpose?

Like why why were they so hands. On with well you wanted? It wasn't so much that I had a problem with what they wanted me to do. Let me put it that way.

It was the fact that the timing sucked because if you recall the way that I came out at the time, I was still trying to finish my last legal wicket to go public, which was my dopster or my pre publication request as to what I could talk about publicly. Oh, come on, So that had not been finished. However, on New Year's of twenty twenty three, that was something that I found very I don't know. It changed the way I thought about how I'd have to go public because James Fox had accidentally put the clapperboard behind.

Yeah, James Fox outed him before everybody. Knew who he was and that aspect, and I still couldn't speak publicly because my dopster requests come until March. I think, Mark, that's interesting double tap Ranger Outdoors with another one for the goal. He's the MVP of super Chats tonight says everyone knows their body count, let alone shooting an alien.

Yeah. Wohen't you know how many times they sent you to shoot the alien? Double tap, good point. It's absolutely ridiculous that he doesn't remember.

Oh, I don't know a handful. You don't remember how many aliens he murdered? Come on, bro, which is when they finally approved it. So I had to keep my mouth shut from January February on after that occurred.

I mean, and James, I loved the guy. I mean, he did what he was. I mean, I'm kind of glad he didn't the alesandos in. It did force me to come out a bit earlier, assuming you know, these plans that people had for me, because has you know, been doing this, you know, interviewing people that come forward in the UAP community, and this is the way they do it.

You know. Corbeille had his way of has his own style. Yeah. Can you imagine SAMs trying to kick a door in, you know, everybody going in the shut up.

He's Special Forces alien assassin, all of that kind of way. It's a Special Forces alien assassin. And I felt a strong compunction to kind of correct some of the things that were going around because I'm like, no, I didn't quite that's not quite right that those things. And it was a very respectful space when I came out in March.

I think that's March when when I did that, and uh, yeah, it was just a good space. I felt like I could contribute. I was very happy that week because I gotten my doctor request finished and I knew what I could talk about, and I thought it was a good time to come forward. And that's how it all fell out.

Awesome. Thank you, And if you just indulge me one more, I'm really sorry. Guys. So you have mentioned that after you came out, you know, you were receiving phone calls from people like Grush and company.

Can you tell us a little bit more about that and what was there a contact at the n GA that you were speaking. To National Geospatial Agency not Grush. Yeah, I know a lot of people from n g A, honestly, but yeah, there were several people I think a lot of Intel folks too that were on the U A P Task Force Forum were also n g A, and just literally literally the whole freaking slew of eight interagency people started contacting me. Yeah, and they've been contacting me for like almost a whole year and year and a half beforehand, when again there would be to the Intel channels and talking to people there about this, that and the other.

You got to understand that before I even got put forward by the U a P Task Force as a person that the Congress wanted to talk to, I was on the U A P Task Force forum and that's where, uh, the Intel community had a lot of questions for me, just like you guys did, and they they are actually tougher about their questions than you guys are. Scientific task Force people there. So that this when it all really started was when I was It was probably twenty twenty one actually when the whole journey started for me. But yeah, the whole thing, the vetting process, all of that ensued thereafter.

So again that's how things went for me chronologically. Okay, great, thank you. I mean, I would like to know more about your relationship with Greer, but I feel like I'm hogging the platforms, so I'll let other people ask questions. Thanks for coming to space with Jason problem.

I think they were a really good que. Somebody sent me an interesting Reddit link and we'll share that in a moment here, let's change to this small This is interesting. This is from a reddit UFOs subreddit. To be clear, to clear the air for anyone who saw the Joe Rogan interview with Jason Sands.

He has claimed in the past to be a literal time traveler and an alien assassin. Think about that for a second. Here we go, it's just out of the way. There was a little bit of controversy a couple months ago.

You were in like a Twitter forum and you already addressed the question of you know, someone asked you were you part of the UAP task Force. You already clarified that you said, and you said, no, you're part of the UAP forum, not the task force. So we don't need to belabor that. But the question I wanted to ask you is there was an interesting question back in that forum.

Someone asked you about. Twenty and back and that something like that, but it's not called that. Could you elaborate on that at all? Yeah?

It was later on in that same interview I readdressed the twenty and back commentary. He's repeating with Corey good Stories. The day of that. We know our interview I gave I had never really researched what twenty in back was all about.

It didn't even know who called it. All I knew about it was it was some sort of a mercenary dirty work kind of a program. So yes, I did experience a dirty work program. But I did explain in the first interview that yeah, that's that was what I did, and they made me do some dirty work for them.

When I had to exit the program, that was the deal to you of that or something bad would happened to me or my family. Can you elaborate on what that dirty work constituted? Well, it was kind of very strange. I feel like it was part of maybe an NHI program that they utilize humans, you know, to do things for them.

That the aliens sent him. The murder the other aliens. Involved kind of being you know, taken from your bed in the middle of the night, unconscious and the next thing you're waking up and you've got some work for them to do. They tell you you're going over here, You're going to go in that cave.

Here's the gun, whatever's in there, you know, And that's kind of how they rolled. On that cave and kill whatever's in there. Alien assassin and he either did it or you knew bad things would happen to you or your family, And that's kind of how it went. But it was usually in the dead of night, that kind of a thing.

And you were and you were a part of that. Yeah, and when you say kill it, what exactly would you be referencing. I guess the team that I was on we killed other nhide for for whoever was in charge. I never got to see who was actually in charge of that program.

I was only told, you know, do what they said. Yes, go in that cave and kill kill that alien. Don't worry about who the bosses of the program are. Well, you know you're never going to go see your family again.

That was kind of the attitude. So that's what I did. I just did. I did what I could, survived it all just so I could get back to my family.

And that was kind of how it rolled. I see, thank you for that. Of course that's UFO Jesus, he's another fucking whack of do. We'll go back to the Twitter spaces questions.

Let's go to writer. Yeah, what happens when you shoot an alien? Good question? Yeah?

Can I pass? For? Can I pass? And then I'll go after the next guy, thank.

You, Yeah, sure, no problem, go to somber and then and then back to writer. Yeah, I was just gonna kind of follow. Yeah, the Task Force people basically admit it. It was just a hob in.

Terms of like during the program, what were your applical guilds that were would put you in the room with the aliens and all that kind of stuff where you're seeing levers and all that. Can you see even though Corey made it all up, the opputable skills that got you into like a room full of guys with levers. I do have a martial arts background. One of the first things that they did with me when they were inviting me into the program took karate that.

Qualified to killing. Two fourteen that I provided already on X. You see that. I also have a marksman ribbon, which means technically that puts you in in the top end of people's accuracy with weapons.

Definitely for me, particularly with the rifle. Sharpshooter certificates, so he's definitely qualified to aliens karate classes when they he's basically special Forces, and. Pretty soon after that martial arts, this recovery. Martial artists for fighting aliens, yes, martial arts.

There's some concerns there about you know, you know, can you you know, defend yourself in a fight. That kind of thing was definitely something they're looking at, I think because they were looking at my weapons proficiency as well as a little bit of my martial arts background. Yeah, I've got a marksman. I definitely kill those aliens for you, sir, Thank you.

I got a question, more general question for you, Jason. What do you think is going to happen with this career versus Alison? No battle we're kind of seeing. Oh jeez.

The one thing I've really been loathed is about all the bad blood in the UAP community. It's kind of like we all want the same thing, but we just have to fight about it and keep cutting each other up. And I feel that's kind of what Lou and Greer are going through right now, and I kind of get it because you know, Lou does things his Bagrier is doing it his way, and I think between the two of them, they just don't see the eye to eye, you think, on everything. And I think recently there's been some issues that came across both of them that caused this riff.

Is that they just didn't see eye to eye on it already, and now the issue is in front of them. They can't avoid it anymore, and it's led to some problems. And I think it's not just them, it's probably some other people in the U peak community. I've seen it this past year as well, where they've had a bit of a rift.

But I think it's mainly just opinions, you know, because Greer has his take on things and Lou definitely has his, and I've seen that and I've you know, I don't know what to do. It's it's up to them whether they want to reconcile and get on with things. What side are you on, Jason me, I like them both. I don't agree with wholeheartedly with either of them from you know, one hundred percent, but the others do agree with a lot with both of them.

Like Lou, he's my hero. He's the one who came forward. He's the one who stepped up first, at least you know that I've I considered. And then Greer on the other hand, he's he was there a lot.

He's been studying this for. So many years, he's been grifting this for so many years. But I see how they've gotten bagged on for different things, you know, Greer for you know, asking for money to to you know, have people come out to his ranch or whatever. And Lou getting bagged on about, you know, his involvement with all SAP and a tip and all this stuff, and you know what really happened program documentation where he was actually hired by both.

But he should probably show everybody else that though, Jason, because he's been pretty much called out for for not we're not doing that. That's a pretty big problem. I do have a question from the audience, and then this is going to be the kind of a personal question. Jason's probably less personal than you're telling us that you flew in a helicopter in front of dealing cap or something.

But yeah, please, we don't. Need that now, if you don't mind, were you paid to be in James Fox's uh No documentary Free? Really? Is there anything that's happening in the community where you're getting money from the community based on the milkmaking?

I have only asked for help from my friends and my family because it's been hard to put the bills together. But thankfully, you know, yeah, he's got a he had a public go fund me. He's lying through his teeth here. If you post a public GoFundMe and ask everybody for money, that's not asking your friends and family for money.

That's asking everybody for money so that you can tell your sci fi fiction stories with no evidence. It's ridiculous. I'm okay, but I understand that. Man.

I'm in between jobs myself right now. But yeah, which is why you're going to buy me a coffee. Dot coms last year though, shame and the Nez guy. Yeah, I have other people though, I'll be honest that.

Yeah, other people are are wanting to set up a fund for people like myself and David Grush and other people that have suffered reprisals because there is no way to, you know, get a lawyer for free unless a lawyer honestly is that involved, which we do, thankfully have some of those types, but they're very tast saturated. A lot of people are asking them for stuff. Well, what documents, what hold on? What documents?

Did Alzano show you? You are correct you that he was director of a. Tip I want to talk to him first. If I official docues and they had his.

Name on it, government documents, He really, really needs that money. Yes, the grifting is out. Of governmental like Harry Reid governmental or actual governmental. Again, let me talk to them about it first before I go.

Oh, I can't, I can't. I think you're talking about the Harry Read letter because that's public and he was retired years. Afterwards, and saying little Azando is known for pulling out his phone or doing these things and trying to show these people to give him wrease. He's known for doing this.

There's tons of people who have met him that he's done this too, So you might be falling victim of that. Jason. I don't trust little as I can see him. Man, that's because he lies.

I don't like liars, Jason. And he's connected the. Trump was Democracy, and you know he's been with Jacques Fallet and you know, you know Kick Green. We know this whole crew, and we know they're dirty.

Jason, and you should know that too well. I know that I've had to watch my off around certain individuals. Lose not one of them. I mean, yeah, you should write it first.

Absolutely, him and I that we agree to on their own. Usually that's what friendship is based on. I mean, I've never had a friend that agreed wholeheartedly with. But yes, Arlene is sharing our Truth Shakers Clips channel.

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Yeah, there are some people that I know are out to I think we're. Going to get to the halfway point. And if people really want me to, will do the other half another day this week or next week to. Get me and get him.

And that's all they think about, or it seems to be that that's all they think about. But that's why I'm glad you guys are actually letting me talk about this in a respectful manner now. I mean it started off a bit rough, but we've got to a better spot now. But that doesn't happen for everybody.

And I don't know, I think that's something that even you know, amongst all the UAP people that are you know, famous, that they've had to deal with that backlash and some of them respond okay to it. I like to think that I'm absorbing it. Well, I mean, yeah, I didn't have to engage in this today with you guys, but I did. I chose to because I'm like, no, they deserve to have some answers.

Yeah, right, what I can tell, But not everybody that I know that are you know leaders in the UAP community can do that. Some of them have. He's a leader. Yeah, the refuse in the UAP community.

Many many times, never to ever do a podcast. You know, they will only go to like a mainstream like their cowards. Their cowards. Well, I wouldn't say that, they just they have their likes and just likes.

Just like I can't make you. I think they're better than us. They're in the invisible college. They talk amongst themselves, the civilized people.

Yeah, they will college mix with it. You see if you look down the bottom and got naughty anonymous listeners. Hi, Jermy Corbell, like, helloe you're here. Yeah.

Well, anyways, it's just one of those things where you know, everybody's got their things that they're able to do and things you can't do. It's just like I can't make you go to church if you don't want to be there. You know, it's the same thing. Uh.

By the way, Chris Mellon like, I would not accuse him of being deep state just because he thinks Trump is democracy. Definitely need so many people. Oh, come on, Melan is the melon banking family. Of course he's deeps state.

I think that's about as deep state as you can get, I. Would say, honestly from most of the people that I've dealt with and including my own experience. Hey there, see Jeffrey eighty six became a subscriber to our clips channel. To see Jeffrey eighty sixth house is going to become a subscriber tonight where it is a similar person Cale became a subscriber to the clips channel.

Big thank you in front of some more and they will think totally different about it and be more acceptable to doing certain things. And I think that's really what we look here is that is the. Invisible college affordable. No, you have to empty your pockets to some of those clowns to get in.

So go ahead, writer, ourchaic Revivals is the first and last time I ever heard of. This guy fourteen When you went to Uh was that jpawk that you went to in two thousand and two and November? Was that in Florida? Right?

Was that like the what it's like the one week course down there in Florida? Yeah, that's right, it's on hurlber Feel. Yeah, I went there because I was That's that's when I was in Hawaii. That's when I actually got my U identified to become a joint planner, and I was working in Hawaii.

Hear that alien years away from the program by that, but yeah, I was. I was doing planning at the time. So are you okay? And then it looks like you went and you did like some Asian you did some stuff in the Asian Pacific Theater of at least had a course on it.

Yeah, because you know what was that like? It wasn't as in depth as I thought it would be, but it was more like you know, the cultures, you know, kind of gives you a general overview and that kind of thing. I actually learned more just from reading intelligence reports when I got back in garrison. But yeah, those were the two just requisite courses after you go through the Information Operations and Integration course, which is the one I graduated from.

And they also sent me to JP talk in EPOK too, because I was in Hawaii. That's the area of world I was to be planning and being concerned about with all. See, this is what all these military guys do. They talk up their military service and they're trading credentials for credibility, Like I was in the military.

So therefore, you know, it's almost as if people in the UFO community think just because somebody was in the military, they can't be lying, Like as if nobody that's ever been in the military lies, right, it's ridiculous. Threats Okay, And then when did you go into the program? Was it? I mean it was sometime after that and no, no, you retired in two thousand and seven, correct.

Yeah, So when I was in the program, that was like nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety No, nineteen ninety one to nineteen ninety four. So he was in the program for three years, but he only killed six aliens. And I got married the first year I was in the program, and I was kicked out of the program in nineteen ninety four. Uh and yes, continued I phil calls another UFO Weirdo UFO guy show.

Then I went to RF Milton Hall, uh for my next duty station. I was there for six years, and I was just an intel guy at that point. Yeah, I know everything, but I can't program and all that good stuff. Continued to learn how to program.

Uh and then uh, so. They what was your rank when they recruited you? Like I was, I was a staff sergeant. It uh looks like okay, so you were in East six in nineteen ninety five.

When did you go into the service? Okay, I went into the service in eighty five, the lady live, So September of eighty five is the date that they did the paydate. But I actually didn't go to boot you made Yeah, so I went through Uh hell, yes, anyway, he was a grunge drifter. That's when I wonder what his wife thinks.

Probably late enlistment program back then, that was what I got paid A little bit ahead of time, But yeah, I did go rink pretty quick. They had their eyes on me for Senior Master Sergeant and chief Master sergeant. But things got too political. I just wanted to get out of the military area.

Yeah, I mean the politics and the military get bad when you get up there in rank. Can you justt like what was your day? Like? He just runs through like a typical day when you're killing program.

Uh yeah, and I assume that you are in E five, like what was your day like like what well, I mean, you know from like did you guys do PT in the morning or was it just like you kind of showed up at nine, Like no, this was your typical daylike in the program. No, in the nineties, that was when in the Air Forces that we didn't have like a daily routine for PT. We did do our run every year. You know, he had you run your mile and a half.

He had every year, so if you didn't do any jogging throughout the year, you practically die. But you had to do so many push ups, set ups, run for a mile and a half and all that stuff. So anyway, the routine, I'll give you a day like you know that starts off normal and then ends up being part of the program. So my normal day would have been if I was doing the aircrew training up range on the Nell's Test Range, I would be dry.

So he's doing aircrew training and then what they just call him up out of the blue and they go, we got another alien in a cave. We needed to go murder him. Driving up for at least two two and a half hours to get all the way up range, get checked into the hotel over the weekend, and then that Monday we would be driving all down the dirt roads onto the test range to go do our work up at Black Mountain. Then you come back and you do that for two weeks and then you go back to home station and you've begin your work.

Now, if I'm doing them on monitoring stuff, I would be sent anywhere in the continental United States. I could go to mi Not Air Force Base. I could go to Washington, d C. Or I could go to Texas, I could go to wherever, and I would conduct telecommunications monitoring assessments, and I would debrief people that were at those installations and the staff that the commanders wanted to hear.

Okay, so now he's doing debriefing after ninety days and give them a final report. And that was exactly the same. That's like a jack of all trades position. I mean, that's wow.

So that was all in the That was the same mos, like the same job at that time, it was like the exact mean, yeah, really. In nineteen ninety five, though, my commander decided that doing with the flag exercises on Nelli's test range was no longer a viable thing, and he thought he could save about four million dollars by abolishing it out of our career Phil. And that's exactly what he did. So after nineteen nine cool, it was no longer a mission for for my career field.

But they still do have people that do help train up there anyways. So then I want to know what training he got to kill and murder alien monitoring mission. So say I went home after that. They just sent you into a cave with a gun.

You don't get any special training for how to deal with the alien threats, right, this is something else, right. A normal monitoring mission. I'm back at home station. Uh, it's a Friday night.

I get a call from the team leader and he would say, have your bags packed, We're going to be there. At six o'clock to pick you up from the back. That's about the only way he's ever going to be cut. He was.

He was, Ye, no special armor to protect against space gig. We're all about the same rank. Yeah, what about space space spoonge? What if the alien spooge is.

All over you? That's who we were the forour ANNA analysts, me and the three other guys. That's what rank we were. We were right around that E five team, and we were hating Colonel as But anyway, so i'd get a.

Call, as military buddies are laughing at this guy. On a Friday, get a call heavy bags packed. We're going to come pick you up at six in the morning. We're going to go to McCarran Airport and we'll tell you where we're going when when.

We get there. So that's how we would roll then Alien and then you do your two week mission monitoring the telephones of these clandestine program locations like at right Patterson, White Sands, you know, you name it, Egglin Air Force Base. There's all these different locations we went to all over the place, and we would. And then they would like where would the assassination like where would the uh you know, the kill team, Like, where did that fit in?

Was that around the same time I'm trying to get I never was on the kill like, I've never picture of the timeline, never did. The dirty work until they excommunicated me from the program. It was that was like the kind of like I think what happened. Yes, it was a punishment because that was the deal my friends made, who were an analysts just like me.

They were the ones they told me, literally with a very serious look on their face, stay in the truck. That's exactly what they told me. And they said, give me your badge, and they went in and they were there for good grief over an hour. They came back out and they were pale as ghosts and they just said, yeah, man, that wasn't fun.

And they said why and they said they really wanted to kill you. And I'm like, yeah, I bet they did. And they were like I was laughing about the aliens really wanted to kill them. That's horrible that we mean, they physically wanted to kill you, Jason.

You don't understand they wanted to kill him, so the superiors not anyway. Yeah, and then the next week is they show up and said we got one more thing we have to do with you, and that's when they took me to this S two location on the Nell's Test range, and that's when the bad ship started. Can you tell me? Okay, so just the last question and then like thank you, thank you for answering my question.

And the aliens just happened to be hanging out around military bases where there. If you're an alien and you know they're trying to kill you, wouldn't you go away from the military basis and they can't kill you easily. Again, another stupid point that logic destroys. The last question is like, I'm very curious about the you said it was an alien.

It was an extraterrestrial weapon that you know. I don't know if you described it as a gun, but it was a weapon that you. This guy sounds so dumb. Did you guys go to the range?

You know, did you have like any type of training? No, it didn't require any of that before. Oh yeah, they just gave you an alien rifle and they gave you no training whatsoever. Then they sent you to kill an alien with an alien rifle that you've never fired before.

Sounds legit. It had a trigger mechanism, and it looked like a rifle for the most part, but it didn't shoot before you issued this weapon. Huh, Like, were you issued this weapon? The issue weapons en route to our ingress point?

They would give it, they would issue our weapons to us. Yes, what type of ammunition did it take? Did it take a card? Some kind of conetic thing?

To me, it was kinectic. It had to be kinetic of some kind of connectic alien that there was zero recoil. I did not feel a recoil at all when I was using it. And say that you remember how many Oh, I'm sorry?

What? Oh? Wow? You say that you do not recall the number of.

I know this. I mean, it's a sensitive thing to ask, man, and I really hate to ask it. I really don't want to ask it. For clarification, you said that you do not remember the exact number of living aliens that you u that you were forced to.

How do you not remember how many aliens you were for. You don't recall the exact number? Let me think, well, I could if I just yeah, there's one. Yeah, I mean, because there's something you don't really.

Three at least three that I know of. There were never a lot of It wasn't like hordes of these things. But when I remember when I was in their presence, it was like you could feel the hatred. Yeah, that's it was like it was like telepathically communicate, telepathic pure hatred.

You know, when it was like walking into the room and the party poopers there, that's what it felt like. They were alien. You know. Well, yeah, you about to kill them.

Imagine happy, thank you for your thank you for your service. Oh, thank you for your service killing those aliens to take your more than thanks for killing the aliens for us, Jason, You. Can't remember how many exactly. I feel like I would remember that, you know what I mean.

I think I do remember three of them, two in one location in a cavern and another one in a cell, a prisoner. Cell that they rifle to kill aliens with. Yes, but I refuse to do so fire. Yes, all that guy died.

That n h I die. And so there's three total that I remember seeing dead. We killed three aliens. Yes, this is live.

Yes, we are live. Yes. The only if you see t S Classics, you know it's a replay. That drawing in James Fox's documentary that was drawing.

Yeah, yeah, for some values, and it looks like your pretty decent jar. But I was curious, would you be willing to do some drawings of that gun that you're talking about, that you would use that rifle type gun? And then did you also would you be willing to do drawings of the aliens that you had to kill? Yeah?

I think you've already well, yeah, I could do that. Yeah, there's already that shows the type of aliens that I encountered. But the rifle I'd have to hand draw that. Yeah, so hold on, sorry, ahead, go ahead.

So that one alien hybrid you referred to it, you thought it might be a highbred, right, the one? Oh, now he's killing alien hybrids too. Yeah, they all rip. Off alien or you know, hybrid creatures.

Huge three times. No shows the drawings. He never produced the drawings. He's trying to run away from this I killed.

I can do that with the ones in the cavern, mostly the one that was in the prison cell. It was kind of dark, out of a rougher time. But anybody else would have already drawn them the image in their mind, I agree. Pictures of many many times very very much like a gray area.

Very The sketchbook of a high school, came with guns and alien. Body, unlike the guy who met in the desert, who looked like a normal human for the most part other than his ears and eyes. And he was hairless. You know.

That bluest tint to skin. But he looked he was more like an albino with some bluish tint. So I really want to try to correct that because a lot of people are saying blue, and really what I mean to say is it's a blue tint like we we get when you know he's got you're really cold. So he looked like he had albin He was like an albino skin very light colored white person is really what it equates to with a blue undertothly blue kind of skin.

No, he looked more look nothing, No, not a all. He looked more like a human tone of a very light color with blue undertone. Uh oh, well, glad we clarified that was not blue, had man, And thank you for staying around like you, but you stay longer. I'm just gonna sit back kind of moderate this and we're gonna get back from.

A nineteen movie. Yeah, somber, somber, somber. You go ahead. And then we'll do Mellow Demon.

Average Chris quest spector and yeah, average. Chris is coming on before your career and everything. Have you ever ever killed a man before anything? No, I've had to pull my twice and I was ready to drop somebody.

Skyrocketing with me break up. Most he his way to bazaar. Again, because you know, they were the ones who kind of helped provide some of the military martial arts and weapons training early on in my life. You don't remember their eyes or anything.

Shot a bunch, you shot, you killed some things, and remember. Not a little green man. Yeah, I mean because I remember to make it easy to number it, because you're not going to forget something like that normally. No, No, I don't.

I don't forget any of that. I can actually picture it to this day. You know it was it was traumatic. It was traumatic.

Remember how cold it was outside the cavern. Remember I got walking within about you know, fifty yards from these entities as we came into the cavern and discovered them. In a shoot any space. Yes, I remember all that.

But yeah, I'll try to find in the market. And shoots a human thinking he was killing an alien from dreams. No, I weapon, I didn't get familiar with it. You don't know where it came from.

It wasn't like an AR fifteen. It was definitely something that was a totally different kind of a weapon. But it did have a very rifle type feel to it and a trigger, and that's about all there was to it. There was not much to explain.

It's kind of like if you totally oversimplified in AR fifteen, that's what it was. If all you had to do was pick it up and pull the trigger, that's what. Okay, So the space gun looked like an AR fifteen. Aliens have guns that look just like that.

That's all lots more questions here, So go ahead to Average Chris. All right, So I just got in here a little bit ago. So I get a couple of questions. It's one I.

Want to talk about. You said a guy with bluish him. Is it possible you just ran across somebody. If this is true, they that was that had hypothermia or something going.

On, That's what I thought it was at first. Yeah, here's Average in my mind because as we were approaching him, I was like, craft, this guy's got hypothermia, and I need to get out there and help him. Before he you know, he's in big trouble here because he could be dying. And I even said that verbally to the driver of the vehicle.

I said, yeah, gonna pull over and help this guy. Why doesn't he name the driver of the vehicle that can corroborate this story with him. He never has and he never will because this is a fake story. It's like he's suffering from hypothermia.

And that's exactly what I thought at first. And then when I stood up and looked right at him, I'm like, holy crap, he's got no ears. Look at the size of those eyes. What the fuck is this?

You know? I was like, what the hell did I just run into with? What hit my mind? Up?

It sounds like Starship Troopers. Another question I have is, so going over your background, you might have been you might have went over this already. I'm not sure. Were you in aircraft structural maintenance first and then over into signals yes or okay?

Yeah, that's for those who aware average Chris's military, so he's good atgating these liars former military. So I just want to clearify that, and I don't I'm not discriading you. You're two fourteen at all, so U. But as far as signals intelligence, mm hmm, there's I'm really confused on how you could go from aircraft maintenance to signals intelligence to an alien assassinated assassin.

I don't understand. Like, so, yeah, we'll hear you do. This is how I. Did you qualify?

You know, obviously a basic training you have to do. Uh, you know, weapons qualifications? Like what was? What was?

How did they. Approach you with? Uh? Do it like killing aliens?

Like? How did that all come about? Well, like I was saying, this was kind of. Well to my house, I bought it, so I spoke as much as I want in my house, but thank you for critique.

Do this mercenary work? But it was because I had sucked up and broke the rules and brought my wife and kids on a mission to go to the zoo over the weekend. And they looked on that as if it was the biggest fuck up in the world. And I just thought, well, if I can't have a wife and kids, I definitely don't care if you kick me out or not, because and I thought that's all it was.

But they came out out of turning in. My bed as like they were gonna cut him from the program because he was going to the zoo. Yeah, this makes sense, heavy butt chewing or something. And that's when I found out that they were actually going to kill me that day and bury my ass in the desert, probably mixed, but my friends had convinced them.

You know, is there any other way? And I think that's what they did is my friends saved my life that day by making me do this mercenary work and giving me a fighting chance to survive out of it. So it was kind of a kindness on their part, but it still sucked. Really beast psychosis could be.

So why would they as a punishment just do like the correct. Field, especially in the middy Harry, and just do something you know as far as I you know, your clients and restricting it or even. Revoking it, taking you out of the job. Why why would they?

I'm going to well. When your story doesn't make sense. To children at the time when all that happened, and I think they just had compassion on some of that, and that's why they didn't do anything else. They just wanted me to do the dirty work.

And then I did show your comments. I never crying about shit. I didn't say nothing. I literally didn't even say anything.

After I retired. For a very long time, I had illinations. I will never I don't care if my leg gets cut off. I will not ever take that ever again.

It's a painkiller community. And that's where I am now. So how the progression was Now, for the progression between being an airframe mechanic to an intel person, it was an overmanning issue in the airframe career field at the time. Whenever there's an overage and there's too many people in a career field that they have, like you know, x hundred more people than they need to actually fix the aircraft because the inventory changes, and the next thing you know, you're not fixing as many C one thirties as you did a year before.

That's kind of what happened to me. And that then you have to go talk to the career counselor take some tests and figure out what you qualify for. And I qualified for intelligence, and I had three jobs to choose from, and I chose the intelligence one, and that's how I cross trained out. Oh, he must be telling the truth about the aliens.

Guy or electronic system security analyst. And then I went to Nellis right after that. But in Germany, Yeah, I used to hang out with some really rough and tough guys as well. Oh yeah, he was with the Special Forces guys hanging out talking about killing aliens.

Sure that might have caught wind with some of the people as well. You know, I did have my martial arts background. Oh and he does karate, so he's definitely qualified to kill and murder aliens. Come and they were kind of grooming me here.

Well, technically I must be qualified to kill aliens because I took karate for years. Maybe I should try to get a side job murdering aliens, right this this is just so stupid and childish. But actually watching me, I think for a good while before they invited me into the program, I think the one thing that precipitated it was for some reason, I've got this really strange memory for questions and answers because at the end of yeah, I don't like pain killers and horse evaluations for learning after my brain and hers, and they try to put me on all kinds of oxy co. No, thank you, I'll just deal with the pain long and I can read through them.

For some real has retirement money could be wrong once, Yeah, I would. Think book, hand the book to somebody else and I can answer them to ninety accuracy in front of them. Tang Sudo is like the more traditional form of taekwondo. It's like taekwondo, but there's a lot more kicks in it.

My son is taking shoto kon karate because I know that taekwondo and tang sudo originated from Japanese karate, and I wanted him to get closer to the source material. He's doing very well, my son. He's done better in karate than I ever did. He's got all these trophies in his room, and gold medals and bronze medals and silver medals.

He does very well at the tournaments in both fighting and informs, so he's doing great. I think he's going for his blue belt tests soon, so I think within a couple of years my son will be a black belt and I'll be very proud of him for that. I got to the belt right before black belt, and I never finished my black belt, and I always regretted it. But what happened was I think I was like fourteen or fifteen when I quit karate, and by then I had discovered girls.

So my time was chasing skirts and not karate tournaments anymore. There's a guy in a front row with on raw with the sign DSP is an awful gamer. Yeah, And there was another there was another person in the front row on some wrestling show and he had a sign that says with dark Side Phil's face from the May first Burst, and it said, what the camera has been on this whole time? Oh?

I didn't know. All right, we'll do just a few more minutes and then we're going to bounce. I think they were like, oh, he's got a good memory too. Yeah, let's let's get him on the program.

And then the other part of it was just getting to know me as a person, because I didn't know it at the time. But yeah, he's one guy so valuable they they put him in a secret program to kill aliens. Yeah, we went up range, we started talking about Dreamland, and the next thing I knew, this guy was, you know, actually part of the program, and he's part of the team that's asking me to be part of the program. But he really liked me a lot, and I liked him.

We got along great, So I think that was another part of the initiation, was whether I got along with them, which I still do. I mean, I really appreciate them. They're very good people. They were just as shocked as I was about some of the stuff we intercepted.

So what you're saying is is people in the signals intelligence field are somehow also can carry weapons and do like missions. And when I first got into the career field, we had we wore a combat crew badge because we could be deployed to whether they have radars, you know, they have to vector in the pilots to right. But you're not being you're not being side. You're not hearing a weapon.

No, only when you deploy. Usually in the Air Force, they don't. You don't walk around with weapons unless you're but you know, working the front gate of an installation or something. That's what I can't believe that you actually watch wrestling and purpose career.

Those are the only conditions we're in the Air Force you get to carry a gun all the time is when you're performing one of those. Jobs, or if you're an MP. I think we're gonna call it there, Yes, spooky. I had guests at the cabin and all weekend long, that's all everybody was talking about.

The guests. My sister's my sorry, my wife's sister and her husband and their child. They were just watching wrestling all weekend. And I don't get it.

I don't get grown people. I get children watching wrestling. I understand that, but I don't understand grown people who know it's fake still watching it. It's just it's fascinating to me.

But I had a very interesting we're gonna we're gonna cut there. So let's say we made it to a hunt one hour twenty three minutes. Let's do three more minutes so that we just have an hour left for part two. So I was never even in the program.

I wasn't issued a gun until after I was put on the mercenary crew to do all the dirty work. That was the only time I got issued by vectoran. He means he's spreading those cheeks. The only other time I handled a gun.

Yeah, we did. We did go fishing and my son caught three fish over the weekend. My wife caught a few fish. Even all my guests here, it's like this sister in law, my brother in law, my i'm an airport, caught a fishing me.

I've been in the circles that you're talking about. And Jason, I'm just going to be completely blunt here we go. There's a lot of stuff that you're telling people that it's not true. I know what did I say?

This is not true as. Matter of fact, So Signals Intelligence get them like your your career build the things you're stating is not true. It's not true. It is completely what part of my jobs.

Like specific com mercenary creway. So you guys aren't going out in the field and doing I don't think doing assassinations. That is nothing that you guys do. And it's not a program.

That's the whole thing. But yeah, okay, you you can't you're talking about. This or Chris, average Chris is trying to like beat him up with logic like signals Intelligence that deals with electronic communication that does not deal with assassination missions. And in a normal world, average Chris is exactly right, you don't send a signals intelligence person on an assassination mission.

But this is the fake, made up, false reality, bullshit world of Jason Sands where that stuff can happen. So a real program, because you know, signing an NBA, you know that if you're part of a pro you sign an NDA, you can't talk about it, don or acknowledge it. So you're you already went through the DOSP process though, so you can't talk about it. Yes, and that's the reason why, Oh yeah, because because they look for accuracy on things, right.

So Dobster does not check for accuracy, and they just checked to make sure you're not going to reveal classified in tellent. I really do think that it's as an air force better than myself. You're you're doing us a disservice by saying things like this. That's not true, and it frustrates.

Me to well. I agree that the program didn't run things like the proper Air Force. So in the proper Air Force, I would go out and do the things that you're talking about, where I qualify with my my my AR and we go to the range and you have to go through there and you clean your gun afterwards, and you give it back to the armory and you don't see that gun ever again unless you go deploy or and you get a totally different gun. Anyways, so that, yeah, I'm very familiar with all those things.

Yeah, that's a good excuse, no. Air force person. However, there are programs that work with the special forces. There are like another guy that was in my career field.

He worked with the Jay Jaysock folks. He was required to carry a gun and he would come in while we were monitoring for Jaysock and he was leading the team, and I would be part of the team and he would have a side arm. I was. However, I was not allowed to have a sidearm, but he did.

But he was one of the guys in my career field that was allowed to do that was in a black program. That's kind of how it rolls stands for all these little niche things that people don't get exposed to. He's from a lot of people like yourself, where you've just been doing you know, regular air force stuff. Yeah, sigint is different.

I mean the singin stuff that was real for me and is right up what you would agree that is proper is that, Yeah, you go out and you collect signals intelligence, which is what I did. Electronic system security is a career field. One N six is what it is now or something like that, or one N six one and oher have joined into one career field now. I started off in the career field two O nine x one I think it was it was the first career field identifier.

You can look look this up. And then after a while they switched out of that and we had to get up. After that, they we switched out of that and they sent me into a cave to shoot aliens with an alien rifle. Energy weapons system.

In one N six was the next one. So it went two on nine x one to one N six x whatever as the career field baking. When tech sergeant, they were talking about combining the career fields and that was still ongoing in two thousand and seven when I exited the Air Force. So they're trying to combine and the one in six career field with I believe the one N o's because it.

Was the best fit at the time. Yeah, I called those That's kind of how it rolled out. Only two hundred people in my career field when I was a two or nine. Because you know, it's you've got to go through certain training.

You're listening to friendly communications, so you have to be trained not only on collecting signals intelligence, you also have to be trained on Privacy act and several other things about the different types of you know, uh, data phones, how to hook those up to the tap device that we have how to get that all set up for the missions. We got to get back to hands though, thank you. Average discrepancy there, and I got to point that out. So when Jason guys, especially special Forces, especially Jayson Intelligence guys, do not low energy fans.

They they work from a distance supporting your mission. So that's a that's another. That's you just you. No, I didn't because they because you're the guys that but you're not going you won't talk special you're talking about Let me tell you, no, you don't.

You kind of does know what he's talking about. So yeah, I actually do. Yeah, actually, okay, look, no, you don't respect You're not making any sense. Were you a one in six?

Did you monitor telephones? Well it's one in four now. Okay, good, So when you monitor telephones jas does. He assassinated them with mind bullet?

Okay, you have a liaison one in four, one N six, two O nine. You know, career field guy that knows how to tap phones, listen, pick up on emails. They are there to protect, they are there. You're going I went on actual, I went to fair fair for average.

Chris has a very good point. If you're a signals intelligence person you're working from a distance at a desk. They're not sending you on a say asassination missions. Jason Sands is completely and totally full of shit, and a real military person in the form of the average Chris knows that he's full of shit, because you don't send a signals intelligence person on an assassination mission of any type, let alone an alien assassination.

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I'll share another sort of another sort of preview of the Internet in Sanity Circus. One of the segments is going to be strange stories. I tried to start this on True Seekers, but to be on our channel, so I have these pre produced. But to be very honest with you, it wasn't the kind of stories for the True Seekers crowd.

But we are going to be able to recycle those strange stories and play them on the circus. So here's a little preview of some of the kind of things that you're going to see on the Internet Insanity Circus show. And we're going to begin these shows probably the last Saturday in August that they'll be at eight pm Saturday. Let's see the first show I believe will be Saturday, August thirtieth at eight pm, but that is subject to change.

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I'm Stephen Cambian, and you're watching strange stories. Today's story comes to us from Detroit, Michigan. Does anyone else have fond memories of a giant slide when they were a child? For me, I have incredibly fond memories of a giant slide at Dutch Wonderland.

Every year when my parents took me there. That was the first ride that I ran to. I couldn't wait to barrel down that slide at Dutch Wonderland. It's called the Fun Slide, and it's giant, but not quite as giant as the slide at Belle Isle.

Many residents of Detroit, Michigan, were very happy recently when they heard that the giant slide that they grew up with, knew and loved in Belle Isle would be refurbished and soon reopened for families all over the area to enjoy. Unfortunately, for people that were some of the first riders after it reopened, things did not go quite as planned. Well, okay, baby, whoa, whoa ho. H.

You see, I've reached out to a few of the mothers of those children that were brave enough to take the first ride. Here's what they had to say. I also talked to one of the fathers and showed him the tape of their child, who was very brave and one of the first riders. Here's what he had to say.

Today's strange story is literally the slide from Hell. So for days now people were posting videos of people brave enough. To try this slide. It became a sort of a running joke in the area.

You gotta see this slide to believe it, and you do. Look at this, this is a crazy story. I reached out to park officials who told me that these problems are being addressed and that I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Earlier today, I reached out to park officials who told me two things. Both good news, these problems with the Slide from Hell are being addressed and taken care of. And secondly, there is some good news. No children or adults who were brave enough to ride this Slide from Hell were seriously injured.

But when I asked the official that I was talking to if he would let his children ride the slide, he said, hell no. Until next time. Friends, I'm Stephen Cambian bringing you another strange story. Hey, you can break your back on the giant slide.

You can't even break your neck. On the giant slide. You can't even bump. Your head a giant slide.

And watch your hands and your leg on the giant slide. It's like jumping off a roof on the giant slide. Man, you can lose a tooth on the giant slide. It ain't much you can do on the giant slide.

What's going on with this new kum a? Giants get on my nerves, so I sent them to the giants. Hold on, baby, it's about to be a giant Go down, baby, it's about to. Be a lot of mild.

I don't know what happened. All I heard was a lot of the same giants slide. We got on this chill this new slide, looking like they jumping off of the Bill's new slide. You gotta take a tighten ad to get off.

Your kids getting on your nerves. Make them get on your getting on your nerves, So you make them get back off this new giant slide. Break next to back, bun. Just let the kids down so on that you get back home.

My kids get on once and they ain't want to get back on. Hey, you can break your back on the giant slide. You can't even break your neck on the giant slide. You can't even bump your head a giant slide.

And watch your hands and your leg in a giant slide. It's like jumping off a roof. On the. You can break your back on the giant slide.

You can even break your neck on the giant slide. You can even up on your head on the giant slide. Wash your hands and your legs on the giant slide. Yeah, it's like jumping up the roof on the giant slide.

You can even lose tooth on. The giant slide. That ain't much you can do on the giant slide. You need to tie it all before you ride the giant slide.

Well, that was something else, the giant Slide from Hell. And for those who are curious, the issue was when they restored this slide, they did a lot of work to the physical structure. But then one of the people restoring the slide thought it would be a good idea to wax the slide, and so too much wax was the issue. They stripped it down and now it's pretty, you know, tame, like people aren't falling off and busting and smashing down.

I just thought it was so funny because when this event actually originally happened all over TikTok, that's where the compilations came from, of people riding it all over TikTok, and you know a few other social media sites Facebook and stuff. Twitter, there were people posting, you know, videos of people almost breaking their necks on this thing. So that's the segment on the Internet in Sanity Circus, which we're just gonna call strange stories and we'll be weird stories like that, but funny ones. So that's the kind of stuff that you can expect on the Internet in Sanity Circus.

We'll take a moment to check in with the Kick live chat see if we have any more support to call out. We're all caught up on the super chats. No no new support on Kick to call out, I'm gonna have to start turning the stream off on Kick. That's what we're gonna have to do.

But we'll give some shout outs to the Kick viewers. We've got Scooter the Pooter over there, Winter's Soldier Rex eight hundred is over there. Pessimist. Pessimist six four five five is over there.

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Place AND i keep saying, it BUT i really am going to try to figure it. Out i'm going to try to figure out the badge system and start getting badges, out or Maybe i'll sell them like Dark Side Phil. Right, absolutely the wax was way off a. YEAH i just thought it was a funny short story riding the.

Whip. Yeah And, arlene that's, interesting you know about The Dutch wonderland and the slide. THERE i got footage of that from YouTube to include BECAUSE i really do have fond memories my dad for. Whatever actually it was the food, there that's what it.

Was my dad was a big. Guy he loved to eat And Great. Adventure we would either go To Great adventure Or Dutch, wonderland but my father preferred to take us To Dutch, wonderland especially when we were small, kids because there's more stuff for little guys and less crazy. Rides but it was really about the food At Dutch.

WONDERLAND i don't, know because you, know how when you go to an amusement park they like rob you for, food you, know like a drink is six dollars or what you, know they rob. You Dutch wonderland never did. That And Dutch wonderland also allowed you WHEN i was a. Child they don't allow this.

Anymore WHEN i was a, child they allowed you to bring a cooler, in so my father would bring one of those rolling coolers and we wouldn't buy any, drinks just. Food and the food prices were incredibly. Reasonable and somebody's, asking Is Dutch wonderland even open? Still yes it.

Is it's still open In, Lancaster. PENNSYLVANIA i took my older son, there But i've never taken my younger son. There so in the fall sometime we're going to take both boys. There, yeah somewhere we have an old picture of us on the log ride and pictures of the.

Divers, yeah my son loved the. Dive they have a dive show. There they used to have a dolphin, show But pete have ruined, that so no more dolphins. SHOW i love the dolphins show because if you're a little, kid they would sometimes call up some of the kids to come on stage and even like you could pet the.

Dolphin so the first TIME i ever got close to a dolphin was At Dutch. WONDERLAND i have great memories Of Dutch, wonderland and my father also Loved Dutch wonderland because it was In. Lancaster and my dad was one of those weirdo train. Guys like our whole basement growing, up the entire.

Sellar we didn't have a. Basement it was a, sellar that's what they would call it In. Philly just a, stone you. Know it didn't have you don't have walls or.

Ceilings it's not. Finished it's like stone walls and, rafters you. Know but it was an extra space in the. Home my father built a train platform that filled the entire fucking.

Basement that's all he did was buy, trains play with trains like a little. Kid you. Know even my grandparents would make fun of, them like you still play with trains you're like, forty you. Know but he loved.

Trains so right next To Dutch wonderland In, Lancaster pennsylvania is one of the biggest railroad museums in The United, states and as a train, guy he loved. IT i was bored as shit at the train. Museum you, know if you see four or five, trains who, cares you, Know but he would love. It we would spend all day at one like the Train, museum and then so we'd leave on A friday and go To Dutch, wonderland and then on A saturday we'd go to the Train museum and On sunday we'd go back To Dutch.

Wonderland he'd get the two day. Pass SO i have such fond memories Of Dutch wonderland growing. Up Hershey park And. Cannobyles i've not so big on, canobles but my dad also Loved Hershey park because he that was another place we would.

Go we would go To Great. Adventure we would go To Dutch, wonderland and we would go To Hershey. Park but we went To Great adventure more than any other place because my parents had a summer home In New jersey and it was about a hand four to get To Great adventure Six Flags Great, adventure AND i think it's In, Jackson New, jersey which is thirty minutes from where their summer home. Was so my dad would get us season passes For Great.

Adventure and even like when me and my brother were. Teenagers he would just drive us there and drop us off and we had a great, time you, know fond memories Of Great adventure as, well BUT i Preferred Dutch. Wonderland Dutch wonderland also had this rocket, ride which is my. Favorite you get on this rocket ship and then the rocket ship would move and they played a movie which was so old it was like from the.

Seventies but as a kid that was into rockets and, spaceships that was just, awesome. Right used to go To Cedar. Point. Yeah.

Interesting, yeah it's funny when you're a kid and doing all those. Things you don't realize later like how valuable those memories will. Be me and my brother always had a good. Time and then when we were, teenagers we would go To Great adventure and try to meet.

Girls SO i ended up with a couple of girlfriends from our, adventures early girlfriends from our adventures At Great. Adventure AND i remember one lived LIKE i think she lived like something, crazy like twelve miles from me from my parents' summer. House and WOULD i rode my bike to see her because she was, Hot but that was an all of the bike, ride. Right her dad felt bad for me when he realized how LONG i had been riding my.

Bike he drove me. Home he put the bike in the back of his pickup and drove me. Home i'm so happy that not have to pedal. Back and then after that my dad would he would drop me off or she would come to our.

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Souls, yeah it could be, dangerous. Right we also had a place that my father loved to take us too because it was only a. Dollar i'm showing my, age like on off, nights so if you went Like monday Through, thursday you could get into this. Park it was Called West Point park for a dollar and it was sort of like it.

WAS i always thought of it as like it's like a, carnival but it's, permanent you know WHAT i. Mean like they didn't have any huge rides or anything too, crazy but they had a pavilion and a band would play all night or A. Dj AND i love amusement park food or carnival. Food you, know how do you not like?

That you go get a blooming, onion you go get cotton, candy, pizza funnel, cake you know things like. That good, times, Guy, merrit why don't you talk to people who are, credible not making a living at this stuff and ignore the people with the ridiculous. Stories we do. Both if you check our, ARCHIVE i have talked to the people THAT i consider, credible especially people who aren't really out there drifting or making a.

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WELL i like the part where he just talks stuff and UFOs could come up or. NOT i don't know if you're talking about me sharing some personal. Stuff my grandparents used to take me to caves all the. Time, Yeah i've been To Indian echo caverns And Crystal caves In.

PENNSYLVANIA i always enjoyed. That that's. Fun, yeah better than that guest. Grifter.

YEAH i talk About David, wilcock and he's the most credible guy. Around. Sure, yeah so, listen we have done our due. Diligence i'm going to bounce on out of, here BUT i will be back tomorrow night at seven Pm Eastern standard.

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